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Welcome, everybody.
Thank you.

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Good afternoon and
welcome to our second,

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at this moment
coded conversation.

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My name is Todd
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a biology professor,

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researcher and
Associate Dean of

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PSU's College of Liberal
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So like all of us, i2

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im sitting here
shelter in home and

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sitting at my kitchen table

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wearing the smart
PSU hoodie.

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Make sure you go online
and order yours.

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And I'm very much
looking forward

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to spending the
next hour with all

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of you and

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this amazing panel that
we've assembled to,

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to really talk about what

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folks are thinking
about at this moment as

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we're all sort of

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sheltering at home
and staying in

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place all day,
every day together.

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So for those of you who are

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joining us for
the first time,

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this is the second of our,

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at this moment covered
conversations.

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Last week we had a
really great series of

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conversations around
all things coded

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in Epidemiology
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and sort of the
analogy of the crisis.

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Today we are going to take

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a totally different pivot,

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which is really
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the consequences of

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the outcomes of the

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sheltering in place moment.

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So again, based
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students and
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we really wanted
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casual sort a welcoming

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space to come together.

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And as I say, to sort of

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make some
community lemonade

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out of this
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coded Lennon's
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So, so thank you
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and helping us make
some lemonade today.

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We all appreciate it. And I

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hope you'll agree that

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in this global pandemic,

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the importance of
building community,

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taking time to just showing

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up and having this
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as well as spending
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celebrate the amazing
faculty we have PSU

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as well as the sort
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of research and
scholarship we're

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doing is probably
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ever for students
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And I can, I can look at

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the list of participants.

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So I know there are

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a lot of students
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Thank you for
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We also hope
you don't PSUs,

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a community of scholars and

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researchers, particularly
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And we hope that in this

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conversation we also do

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some work to sort of
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the way in which
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researchers think

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about what we're
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And so hopefully
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a great moment for you.

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And please,

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students put a lot
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the chat box as well as

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in the Q and a. Alright,

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so today we're
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be joined by a great PAL.

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We have Dr. Charlotte
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Cynthia more from PSU
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as well as Dr.
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PSU sociology department
or weekly form,

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it is going to
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This is a casual fair.

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we run this list of shows,

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each panelist will
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who they are, what
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maybe what they teach,
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and PSU, particularly
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And then we're going
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which is ask
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here to describe a
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how this moment might be

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shaping the way they

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think about their research.

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Shaping about maybe
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sort of any other pivot

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that basically a question

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of what are you

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thinking about
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That'll take us about
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And each one of
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for general questions
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we've done for

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the College of Liberal
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We never have
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through all the
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but we'll do our
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through into a wide
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But we are collecting
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great assistance
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we try to get the panelists
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those questions and
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them back out sort
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we're going to do our best

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to get an answer for you.

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So whether you're
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sitting at your
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I'm sitting here.

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Our sitting outside
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the floor perhaps doing

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the dishes or laundry.

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You're playing
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I hope you'll enjoy

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this next 60
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this conversation
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of what this group of

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faculty PS you were

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thinking about.
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I am super happy to be here

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and I'm super glad

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that you've all
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So with that, I want
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introduce our
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So with that, why don't we

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go ahead and start with Dr.

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Charlotte rates from

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PSU psychology
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Thank you for being here,

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for having me, Todd.

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It's nice to be part
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I am an associate
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industrial and organizational
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psychology graduate
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in the psychology
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And I've been at PSU
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For the past 19
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I have studied what
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healthy, engaged,
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under that bigger
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I have focused on
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links between stress at

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work and employee
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The question of how
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cover and unwind from

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work demands during breaks

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and doing times
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the evening, the weekend,
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other phenomena are related

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to work-life balance.

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bit more towards positive

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phenomena in the workplace.

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the research lab on

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Positive Organizational
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Feel free to check
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I focus on things
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people positively
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work after time away from,

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from work to kind
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they tune in back

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be engaged throughout
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their entity throughout
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related to energy
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create positive
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employees and their
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mention is I study

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how people save or

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positive experiences
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positive experiences
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connecting them to
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those emotions a
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not just noticing, but
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that research and Over

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the last couple of months,

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I've thought about
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in which this
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relates to explore
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that employees and
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Currently half and I'd like

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to share three
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the context of work stress

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and employee well-being.

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been written in
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transitioning into
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a million stories and I

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got bombarded with
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I think what's
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point out is that working

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remotely is not the
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home during a pandemic

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or shelter and
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understand for
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for organizations and

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organizational leaders
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additional demands at work

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and at home at
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really have some
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this is a moment
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and difficulty is
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Bma, I became myself

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Koch organizational
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attention to what employees

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need in terms of
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about all these
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the moment is employees

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need a lot of
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you can't really
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leaders to really ask,

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what do you need?
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my research on recovery

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and unwinding from
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My own research.

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And the research
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has shown that
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call psychological
detachment seems

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to be crucial for

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employee well being and

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it helps to
reduce distress.

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By psychological
detachment, we

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mean mentally letting go

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from work when we
leave the workplace.

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Well, currently we have

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scenarios where some of us

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have overlap in terms of

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the physical
workspace between

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kind of work and
home, right?

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And it might make
it a lot harder

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to detach from
work, therefore.

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And then we have
others. For example,

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our essential workers.

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We're dealing with
additional demands,

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long work hours and

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really stressful
work scenarios.

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And it really might be hard

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for them to mentally let

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go of all of that

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even after they
leave the workspace.

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And I think for
all of them,

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it's important to find ways

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to create these opportunities
for detachment.

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And that can be done in

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a lot of different ways.

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Sometimes it's a way
to distract yourself.

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Sometimes it's
about choosing

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specific strategies
that bring

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joy or provides relaxation.

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For example, specifically,

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we can think
about meditation.

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There wonderful apps out

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there that can be used.

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The possibility to
engage with nature,

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which is really beneficial
for many people.

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And luckily, many of
us have backyards

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or even just a bench in

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the park they can find, or

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a balcony. And
you'll have that.

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Well, it will do
at the moment.

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Of course, engaging in
activities with family

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can help even if it's

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just as distractor
for a little while.

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And then what I see,

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what I also really
love as people are

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really excited about
that pets at the moment,

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and the pets are really
excited about them.

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And I checked the website

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off the humane Oregon
humane society.

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There are barely
any cats or

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dogs up for
adoption right now.

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And I think
that's beautiful

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and I'm very
excited about that.

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So, you know, the pets

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get some love and they
give us some love.

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And I think that's
another way

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to detect a little
bit from work.

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And that also leads me
into the third piece,

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the piece on focusing on

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positive
experiences at work

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and at home for
employees right now.

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And specifically,
I encourage people

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to find ways to savor
positive experiences.

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And that's maybe
a hard thing

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to say right now in
the circumstances

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that how can I focus on the

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positive if there's so

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much negative
around, right?

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Savoring is not about
ignoring adversity.

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It's about
choosing to focus

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on the positive
experience and engaging

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with it while
acknowledging that

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adversity exists and
needs to be coped with.

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And so it's a choice

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that we're making
and we're making.

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It's often just for a
moment, here or there.

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It doesn't take very long

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and it can take
place at work.

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You know, being
grateful after

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a good conversation with

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a customer or a
coworker, right?

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Noticing how we contributed

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to work that day, right?

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How we made a
positive change

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for somebody else.

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And what savoring
really does it,

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it creates
positive feelings

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which helps our happiness.

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We'd like that of K, well,

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everybody likes
being happy,

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but it also does
something else.

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It actually supports
our physical health.

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Creating moments
of positivity

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and allowing to feel
the positive emotions

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actually releases

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neurotransmitter in
our brain that are

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good for our
physical health

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and actually strengthen
our immune system.

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So by finding
moments to savor,

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we're actually
able to not only

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increase our positive
emotions and happiness,

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but we're also boosting
our physical health.

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And I call that a win-win.

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And with that,
I'm going to stop

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with my reflections
on the moment and

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I'm happy to pass it

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on the next
presenter. Thank you.

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Thank you so
much, Charlotte.

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We have lots to
talk about there.

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So the next up is

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Dr. Cynthia from
because you say,

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Hi, I'm so glad to be here.

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And I think you'll see that

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Charlotte and I have

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a lot the dovetails
in terms of

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the kinds of things
we're excited about.

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And you know, so
first of all,

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I'm a psychology professor

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here at Portland State.

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I, my background is in

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social psychology and I'm

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a member of the
applied social

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psychology area.

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Here we have a program,
a doctoral program,

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where we train students
to think about

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Complex social
problems from

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the perspective of

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individual personal
attributes,

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as well as more
situational,

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contextual factors that

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influence their behavior.

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A lot of us think about

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things like
health behavior.

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And so that's one of the
focuses that I have.

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I've been here
for 18 years now,

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which is kind of a surprise

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that it catches up
with you over time.

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So I have a terrific team

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of graduate students
that I work

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with and some wonderful
undergraduates

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as well in our dyadic lab.

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And so I'm happy to talk

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with you a little bit
about the work we do.

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Pediment, a very
basic level.

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We study social
relationships.

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So friends, spouses,

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children, family members,

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and how those
relationships are so

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critically important to

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our health and
well-being mean.

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What we know from

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lots and lots of
literatures that

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we human beings are
social creatures that

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we are need for
other people,

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is a core human need.

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And so it's very

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natural for us
to want to reach

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out to be with

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other people when
we're very stressed.

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So that's something that

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I'll come back
to in terms of

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how my work is

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being influenced in
the current moment.

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So we know that
these health,

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high-quality social
relationships are

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really important
to our health.

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In fact, there's
some evidence to

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show that it's
as important as

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cigarette smoking than it

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may be more important than

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physical activity in terms

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of determining our
ultimate health outcomes.

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So they're very, very

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important in, in my lab,

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what we do is
we look at how

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our relationships play
out in daily life,

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everyday interactions
that people have,

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whether they are
uplifting or

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they are detrimental or
harmful or critical.

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Not necessarily sort
of the extreme of

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things in terms of
like abuse or neglect.

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But even just everyday
typical behavior

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where we might
be criticized or

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have this kind of
negative interaction with

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people and how those are

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some of the most stressful

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experiences that we have.

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That they are very potent

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in terms of predicting

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our emotional well-being.

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So, you know, on
the other hand,

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what we're interested
in doing is

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thinking about on the
other side of things,

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how do we build a
strong relationship?

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So what does it mean to

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have a strong relationship?

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And how the research

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is pointing to
this idea of how

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it's so important to

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feel understood,
to feel validated,

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to make you feel like
you're cared for by

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your relationship
partners and what are

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the processes by which we

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come to feel that way?

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And so for a long time,

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research has
looked at things

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like social support and

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how people Respond
to you when

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you're feeling down or

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things are not going well.

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And as we've
turned a corner

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to look at more
positive processes,

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similar to what
Charlotte describes.

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What we're finding is that

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how people respond to

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you when things are
going well or write,

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or when you have
some kind of

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an achievement or you've
met some goal that

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you've been striving for

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that that's actually very

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important to so we

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call it a process
of capitalisation.

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So how people respond
to your good moments

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is as diagnostic of
whether they understand,

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validate, and care for

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you as how they
respond when,

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when things are
stressful or down.

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So this is a process that

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we've been looking
at over time.

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We've been looking at,

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we often do daily
diary studies.

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What we found
in our own work

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is that when
you have people

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who are responsive
in your networks,

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but especially
looking at, you know,

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oftentimes it's
framed in terms

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of romantic partners
because those are the,

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the most central providers

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of our emotional
well-being.

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And how those interactions

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then do things like
they produce pain,

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they, they improve
our sleep quality.

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When we can look and see

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how a good reaction
on a given day

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from a partner
would actually

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improve the sleep of

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the individual Bat Night.

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So we can even trace
it down to that level.

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And how part of this
happens, because it,

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it reduces our feelings

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of loneliness and an R

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increases our sense of

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closeness with the,
with the partner.

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So these are the
kinds of things that,

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that my team and I have

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been unpacking over time.

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And so as we turn
our attention

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to the shelter
and place roles

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and thinking about What's

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happening right now in

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our context as someone

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who studies social
relationships,

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it's like we've just had

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this really dramatic
intervention

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to our relationships.

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And so yeah,

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there's a lot to be
concerned about in

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terms of social
isolation and

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the negative repercussions

543
00:18:27,919 --> 00:18:29,089
that can come from that.

544
00:18:29,089 --> 00:18:32,419
And how are people trying
to stay connected?

545
00:18:32,419 --> 00:18:34,430
And especially because this

546
00:18:34,430 --> 00:18:35,830
is a core human needs.

547
00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:37,820
So we end, if
we're stressed,

548
00:18:37,820 --> 00:18:39,680
we really want to
reach out to people.

549
00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,965
So encouraging
things like what,

550
00:18:42,965 --> 00:18:44,209
you know, what I like

551
00:18:44,209 --> 00:18:46,670
to call distant
socializing.

552
00:18:46,670 --> 00:18:48,754
So how we make
sure that we read,

553
00:18:48,754 --> 00:18:51,409
maintain these
connections and stay

554
00:18:51,409 --> 00:18:54,020
connected to people at

555
00:18:54,020 --> 00:18:56,480
times when we're
really having

556
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,240
to stay more
socially isolated,

557
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,655
then what is
natural and how

558
00:19:01,655 --> 00:19:04,190
I believe that's something

559
00:19:04,190 --> 00:19:07,219
that probably makes
this experience

560
00:19:07,219 --> 00:19:09,875
more stressful than
we might think,

561
00:19:09,875 --> 00:19:11,389
oh, hanging out a home.

562
00:19:11,389 --> 00:19:13,760
What's, what's
tough about that?

563
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,890
And it's like, well, it's

564
00:19:15,890 --> 00:19:18,710
not a natural thing
for us to be doing.

565
00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:21,470
So I think, you know what,

566
00:19:21,470 --> 00:19:24,109
what I am focusing

567
00:19:24,109 --> 00:19:26,765
on is like how are
people responding?

568
00:19:26,765 --> 00:19:28,430
This moment in terms of

569
00:19:28,430 --> 00:19:30,200
what is their
loneliness like,

570
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,169
is this a situation
that's going to lead

571
00:19:33,169 --> 00:19:34,309
to higher levels of

572
00:19:34,309 --> 00:19:36,395
depression and
things like that.

573
00:19:36,395 --> 00:19:37,339
On the other hand,

574
00:19:37,339 --> 00:19:38,569
what are the
things that people

575
00:19:38,569 --> 00:19:40,609
are doing that can
buffer against that?

576
00:19:40,609 --> 00:19:43,009
So, you know, if
we're feeling lonely,

577
00:19:43,009 --> 00:19:45,079
we might have a tendency to

578
00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:48,275
withdraw from social
interaction further.

579
00:19:48,275 --> 00:19:52,265
But, you know, if you
know, so for example,

580
00:19:52,265 --> 00:19:53,599
looking at how people

581
00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:55,280
are responding right now,

582
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,769
they may do things
like watch Netflix

583
00:19:57,769 --> 00:19:59,209
or do you watch

584
00:19:59,209 --> 00:20:00,589
movies or something
like that?

585
00:20:00,589 --> 00:20:02,405
But, you know, can we

586
00:20:02,405 --> 00:20:04,340
consider watching
done as a group?

587
00:20:04,340 --> 00:20:05,899
Is there a way
of increasing

588
00:20:05,899 --> 00:20:07,039
that social interaction?

589
00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:08,749
I think the good
thing about

590
00:20:08,749 --> 00:20:10,760
the time in our
lives that this has

591
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,140
happened is that we have

592
00:20:12,140 --> 00:20:14,899
technology which can really

593
00:20:14,899 --> 00:20:17,089
facilitate

594
00:20:17,089 --> 00:20:19,909
our connections on
social interactions.

595
00:20:19,909 --> 00:20:21,319
And, and we can think

596
00:20:21,319 --> 00:20:24,005
about ways of
staying connected.

597
00:20:24,005 --> 00:20:27,710
And I think what's also

598
00:20:27,710 --> 00:20:29,389
really important
is remembering

599
00:20:29,389 --> 00:20:30,890
to celebrate the
good things.

600
00:20:30,890 --> 00:20:33,649
So because we know

601
00:20:33,649 --> 00:20:35,629
that's really important for

602
00:20:35,629 --> 00:20:37,385
our health and well-being.

603
00:20:37,385 --> 00:20:40,219
So thinking creatively
about, you know,

604
00:20:40,219 --> 00:20:40,759
if we can't have

605
00:20:40,759 --> 00:20:42,619
a birthday party and
the traditional way,

606
00:20:42,619 --> 00:20:44,120
how can we do this in a way

607
00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:46,010
that's still going
to, you know,

608
00:20:46,010 --> 00:20:48,739
as Charlotte talked about
savoring the moment

609
00:20:48,739 --> 00:20:50,479
but not

610
00:20:50,479 --> 00:20:52,955
jeopardizing our health
and the process.

611
00:20:52,955 --> 00:20:56,554
So and that's what's
going to help us

612
00:20:56,554 --> 00:21:00,440
stay sheltered and
place for as long as is

613
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,070
necessary so I can

614
00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:05,750
put up the website at

615
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:07,670
a later point,
whatever's convenient.

616
00:21:07,670 --> 00:21:09,019
But one of the
things we're really

617
00:21:09,019 --> 00:21:10,700
interested in doing
is hearing from

618
00:21:10,700 --> 00:21:12,680
students about

619
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,780
their experience
during the pandemic.

620
00:21:14,780 --> 00:21:17,720
So we actually launched
a study look at

621
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,309
what are the kinds of
things students are

622
00:21:19,309 --> 00:21:21,124
doing during this time to,

623
00:21:21,124 --> 00:21:22,489
to think about their,

624
00:21:22,489 --> 00:21:24,304
their health,
their well-being.

625
00:21:24,304 --> 00:21:26,075
How are they, how,

626
00:21:26,075 --> 00:21:29,180
how are they sheltering
and in place?

627
00:21:29,180 --> 00:21:30,350
And how are they

628
00:21:30,350 --> 00:21:32,480
managing during
their daily life,

629
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,549
during this period
of social isolation?

630
00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:37,429
So we'd really
love to hear from

631
00:21:37,429 --> 00:21:38,810
students and learn more

632
00:21:38,810 --> 00:21:40,730
about their experience.

633
00:21:40,730 --> 00:21:43,985
So, so with that,
I'll turn it over.

634
00:21:43,985 --> 00:21:46,489
Great pinkish and what
a great invitation

635
00:21:46,489 --> 00:21:47,390
for students to have

636
00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:48,724
an impact in the
research space.

637
00:21:48,724 --> 00:21:51,559
Yeah, so next is

638
00:21:51,559 --> 00:21:54,929
Darrow shift from PSUs
sociology department.

639
00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:00,440
So I wasn't going to make

640
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,760
slides within
my department.

641
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,049
Happy hour got
canceled and I

642
00:22:03,049 --> 00:22:10,009
felt guilty, more nervous.

643
00:22:10,009 --> 00:22:16,730
Is it working?
Yes. Looks good.

644
00:22:16,730 --> 00:22:20,404
Okay. So I'm a
sociologist of education.

645
00:22:20,404 --> 00:22:23,149
I focus on cognitive
disabilities,

646
00:22:23,149 --> 00:22:26,060
learning disabilities,
autism, ADHD.

647
00:22:26,060 --> 00:22:27,769
Also focus on the
experience of

648
00:22:27,769 --> 00:22:30,994
teaching US social
psychological hell.

649
00:22:30,994 --> 00:22:32,494
So funding from

650
00:22:32,494 --> 00:22:33,560
the National
Science Foundation

651
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,629
supports my research
on the school and

652
00:22:35,629 --> 00:22:37,820
teacher factors that
reduce disparities and

653
00:22:37,820 --> 00:22:39,200
adolescence math
and science

654
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,489
progress by disability,

655
00:22:40,489 --> 00:22:43,040
race Socioeconomic
status. I'm gonna talk

656
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,389
about socioeconomic status

657
00:22:44,389 --> 00:22:46,190
a lot and just say SES.

658
00:22:46,190 --> 00:22:47,779
So the NSF funding and

659
00:22:47,779 --> 00:22:49,190
funding from PSUs build

660
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:51,229
exit program contribute to

661
00:22:51,229 --> 00:22:52,730
the best part of
my job training

662
00:22:52,730 --> 00:22:54,139
and working with PSUs.

663
00:22:54,139 --> 00:22:56,330
Excellent graduate and
undergraduate students

664
00:22:56,330 --> 00:22:58,010
who are on this slide.

665
00:22:58,010 --> 00:22:59,870
Prior to entering academia,

666
00:22:59,870 --> 00:23:00,740
I taught math that

667
00:23:00,740 --> 00:23:01,849
two middle schools
that are at

668
00:23:01,849 --> 00:23:02,929
the opposite ends of the

669
00:23:02,929 --> 00:23:04,400
socioeconomic spectrum.

670
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,409
And that made it
really clear to me

671
00:23:06,409 --> 00:23:07,550
how powerfully

672
00:23:07,550 --> 00:23:08,930
our children's
lives are shaped

673
00:23:08,930 --> 00:23:11,914
by segregation
across the US and

674
00:23:11,914 --> 00:23:15,199
neighborhood schools
by SES, and race.

675
00:23:15,199 --> 00:23:16,789
And so a common
theme across all of

676
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:18,499
my research is
how inequality

677
00:23:18,499 --> 00:23:19,609
outside of schools effects

678
00:23:19,609 --> 00:23:21,440
processes inside

679
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,900
schools and
educational outcomes.

680
00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:26,300
And social inequality is

681
00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:28,250
fundamentally inner bound.

682
00:23:28,250 --> 00:23:29,885
And the pandemic
we keep hearing,

683
00:23:29,885 --> 00:23:31,159
we're all in this together.

684
00:23:31,159 --> 00:23:32,660
But the truth is
that summer in

685
00:23:32,660 --> 00:23:34,939
it to a much greater
degree than others.

686
00:23:34,939 --> 00:23:36,379
In many ways, we're saving

687
00:23:36,379 --> 00:23:37,579
lives on the backs of

688
00:23:37,579 --> 00:23:39,094
socio-economically
disadvantaged

689
00:23:39,094 --> 00:23:40,745
parents and their children.

690
00:23:40,745 --> 00:23:43,084
For one, people
who were already

691
00:23:43,084 --> 00:23:44,360
economically
vulnerable are more

692
00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:46,490
likely to have
been laid off.

693
00:23:46,490 --> 00:23:48,470
And then Linda residue,

694
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:50,030
although she's
a sociologists

695
00:23:50,030 --> 00:23:51,439
of education at Purdue,

696
00:23:51,439 --> 00:23:52,790
she describe schools as

697
00:23:52,790 --> 00:23:54,650
essential
institutions and not

698
00:23:54,650 --> 00:23:56,569
only for the
obvious reasons,

699
00:23:56,569 --> 00:23:59,659
ostensibly build competent
workers, citizens,

700
00:23:59,659 --> 00:24:01,399
but for all of

701
00:24:01,399 --> 00:24:03,169
the visible and
invisible resources

702
00:24:03,169 --> 00:24:04,099
they provide to students

703
00:24:04,099 --> 00:24:04,879
and their families to

704
00:24:04,879 --> 00:24:06,634
things that Cynthia
was talking about,

705
00:24:06,634 --> 00:24:09,530
human connection and
culture building,

706
00:24:09,530 --> 00:24:11,045
social capital.

707
00:24:11,045 --> 00:24:13,069
But these essential
institutions have been

708
00:24:13,069 --> 00:24:14,360
dramatically
altered through

709
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:15,709
the response to
the pandemic,

710
00:24:15,709 --> 00:24:17,689
with the vast
majority shifted

711
00:24:17,689 --> 00:24:20,659
to being remote for
the indefinite future.

712
00:24:20,659 --> 00:24:22,820
And we hear I'm sure

713
00:24:22,820 --> 00:24:23,690
everyone's hearing a lot

714
00:24:23,690 --> 00:24:25,265
of stories from parents.

715
00:24:25,265 --> 00:24:27,949
Billing distress as the
responsibility PER,

716
00:24:27,949 --> 00:24:29,750
educating in caring
for their children

717
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:30,829
during the day has shifted

718
00:24:30,829 --> 00:24:31,925
from schools to them.

719
00:24:31,925 --> 00:24:33,170
And it really demonstrates

720
00:24:33,170 --> 00:24:34,460
how schools are central,

721
00:24:34,460 --> 00:24:36,739
so social institutions and

722
00:24:36,739 --> 00:24:38,029
demonstrates
how challenging

723
00:24:38,029 --> 00:24:39,545
the work of
teaching can be.

724
00:24:39,545 --> 00:24:41,990
Teachers not only shape
individual lives,

725
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:43,379
direct our broader
culture and

726
00:24:43,379 --> 00:24:45,544
on our national future.

727
00:24:45,544 --> 00:24:47,779
And the thing I've
been thinking

728
00:24:47,779 --> 00:24:50,449
about mostly is that

729
00:24:50,449 --> 00:24:52,249
not being able
to go to school

730
00:24:52,249 --> 00:24:53,705
might pose more cost

731
00:24:53,705 --> 00:24:56,390
and lower SES you Lynn
for higher ITS youth.

732
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:58,129
And a lot of ways, even in

733
00:24:58,129 --> 00:25:00,200
non pandemic times, SES,

734
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,630
differences in the
rate of learning are

735
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:04,249
especially apparent
during the summer

736
00:25:04,249 --> 00:25:05,659
when kids are
out of school.

737
00:25:05,659 --> 00:25:07,700
In other words,
higher SES kids

738
00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:09,635
continue to learn when
they're out of school.

739
00:25:09,635 --> 00:25:11,989
Whereas lower SES, kids
have less access to

740
00:25:11,989 --> 00:25:13,369
resources outside of school

741
00:25:13,369 --> 00:25:14,465
that build their learning.

742
00:25:14,465 --> 00:25:16,235
And so the consequences

743
00:25:16,235 --> 00:25:17,929
of remote learning
are likely to be

744
00:25:17,929 --> 00:25:20,089
more dire and enduring for

745
00:25:20,089 --> 00:25:23,660
lower SES youth compared
to higher SES youth.

746
00:25:23,660 --> 00:25:26,390
This is a screenshot from

747
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:27,560
my fifth grade nephews

748
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,064
firstname virtual
school last month,

749
00:25:30,064 --> 00:25:31,459
and about every
other message

750
00:25:31,459 --> 00:25:32,119
on the screen from

751
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,439
the same kid saying hello

752
00:25:33,439 --> 00:25:34,985
to the teacher, Mr. Clay.

753
00:25:34,985 --> 00:25:36,110
And there's many varieties,

754
00:25:36,110 --> 00:25:37,280
as you can imagine.

755
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,329
As though I had
to check with

756
00:25:38,329 --> 00:25:39,529
my sister the next
day to see if

757
00:25:39,529 --> 00:25:40,550
Mr. Clay was even still

758
00:25:40,550 --> 00:25:42,244
working up, we'd just quit.

759
00:25:42,244 --> 00:25:44,569
So as difficult as it
is for teachers to

760
00:25:44,569 --> 00:25:46,969
maintain engagement
and order and person,

761
00:25:46,969 --> 00:25:49,504
it seems near impossible
from a distance.

762
00:25:49,504 --> 00:25:50,809
And then other issues

763
00:25:50,809 --> 00:25:51,919
related to remote learning

764
00:25:51,919 --> 00:25:54,139
or magnified for
lower SES kids.

765
00:25:54,139 --> 00:25:55,490
All kids are experiencing

766
00:25:55,490 --> 00:25:57,050
inferior curriculum
right now,

767
00:25:57,050 --> 00:25:58,579
but lower SES kids also

768
00:25:58,579 --> 00:26:01,039
have less access to
high-speed internet.

769
00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:02,749
Their parents had less time

770
00:26:02,749 --> 00:26:04,325
and resources to facilitate

771
00:26:04,325 --> 00:26:05,689
educational experiences at

772
00:26:05,689 --> 00:26:07,550
home. On their homes.

773
00:26:07,550 --> 00:26:09,034
Maybe more disarray because

774
00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:10,939
the employment crisis and

775
00:26:10,939 --> 00:26:13,415
other financial or
health stressors.

776
00:26:13,415 --> 00:26:15,199
And some lower
SES kids have

777
00:26:15,199 --> 00:26:16,999
lost access to school
minerals that are

778
00:26:16,999 --> 00:26:17,630
provided through

779
00:26:17,630 --> 00:26:19,550
the federal free
and reduced lunch

780
00:26:19,550 --> 00:26:20,989
and breakfast program.

781
00:26:20,989 --> 00:26:22,879
So just as the implications

782
00:26:22,879 --> 00:26:24,080
of our response to

783
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,520
the Coronavirus or more

784
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,499
dire for lower SES persons.

785
00:26:27,499 --> 00:26:29,419
The complicating
factor is that

786
00:26:29,419 --> 00:26:31,624
the implications of the
coronavirus itself,

787
00:26:31,624 --> 00:26:33,560
or more dire for
lower SES persons

788
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,645
and for higher SES persons.

789
00:26:35,645 --> 00:26:37,970
And that's in large
part because of how

790
00:26:37,970 --> 00:26:41,400
social inequality
shapes health overall.

791
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,760
It's something I
learned recently

792
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,139
is that organs

793
00:26:45,139 --> 00:26:46,520
actually a national leader

794
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,605
in school-based
health centers.

795
00:26:48,605 --> 00:26:50,840
I in faculty from
other universities,

796
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,920
just got funding from

797
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,529
the Spencer Foundation
to see whether kids at

798
00:26:54,529 --> 00:26:56,690
schools that have
school-based health centers

799
00:26:56,690 --> 00:26:57,919
have better attendance and

800
00:26:57,919 --> 00:27:00,170
education outcomes
than students

801
00:27:00,170 --> 00:27:02,000
at otherwise
comparable schools.

802
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,310
With, without school-based
health centers.

803
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:05,599
The Oregon Health
Authority says,

804
00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:07,099
healthy kids learn better.

805
00:27:07,099 --> 00:27:08,929
And we found out we
are getting funded

806
00:27:08,929 --> 00:27:10,655
just after the
pandemic had started,

807
00:27:10,655 --> 00:27:12,230
which pretty much through

808
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:14,360
our whole plan
into disarray.

809
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:16,070
So we're currently shifting

810
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:17,809
the focus of the
project to try to

811
00:27:17,809 --> 00:27:20,510
investigate how the
pandemic is shifting

812
00:27:20,510 --> 00:27:21,949
the operation
of the student

813
00:27:21,949 --> 00:27:23,630
School-Based
Health Centers.

814
00:27:23,630 --> 00:27:25,969
Mother maybe that
they're even still

815
00:27:25,969 --> 00:27:28,399
able to effect positive
changes for kids,

816
00:27:28,399 --> 00:27:30,245
even from a distance.

817
00:27:30,245 --> 00:27:31,789
And another interesting
fact is that

818
00:27:31,789 --> 00:27:33,049
these health centers

819
00:27:33,049 --> 00:27:34,399
don't just search students.

820
00:27:34,399 --> 00:27:36,710
They often serve the
community as well,

821
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:38,119
to the relatives
and friends

822
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,649
of students at the school.

823
00:27:39,649 --> 00:27:41,810
Their importance
might become even

824
00:27:41,810 --> 00:27:45,064
more apparent as a
result of the pandemic.

825
00:27:45,064 --> 00:27:47,510
But in all the
thing dependent mix

826
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:49,520
making me think
most about is how

827
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,429
fundamentally
differences in SES and

828
00:27:52,429 --> 00:27:53,810
social inequality affect

829
00:27:53,810 --> 00:27:55,970
both education and
health outcomes.

830
00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:57,890
And that's in
large part because

831
00:27:57,890 --> 00:28:00,199
of our country's policies
and laws that we

832
00:28:00,199 --> 00:28:02,299
allow SES to have
this powerful if I

833
00:28:02,299 --> 00:28:05,059
think that we allow
inequality to persist.

834
00:28:05,059 --> 00:28:07,039
So rather than
responding to

835
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:07,999
the pandemic in
ways that are

836
00:28:07,999 --> 00:28:09,199
best for our family,

837
00:28:09,199 --> 00:28:11,389
are best for people in
our media contexts,

838
00:28:11,389 --> 00:28:12,379
public policy should be

839
00:28:12,379 --> 00:28:13,519
focused on what's
best for the

840
00:28:13,519 --> 00:28:15,920
collective in
terms of health,

841
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,735
financial, and
social outcomes

842
00:28:17,735 --> 00:28:20,220
for the largest
share of people?

843
00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:28,720
That's right.

844
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,399
Yeah. Thank you there.
That was great.

845
00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:31,720
And thank you so
much for reminding

846
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,950
us authentically

847
00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:34,689
that at this moment

848
00:28:34,689 --> 00:28:35,450
some of that started more

849
00:28:35,450 --> 00:28:36,399
in this than others.

850
00:28:36,399 --> 00:28:37,510
And I think that we don't

851
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:38,680
even eat that nearly not.

852
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,095
So thank you for
bringing that to them.

853
00:28:41,095 --> 00:28:43,630
So that was great.
Thank you so much.

854
00:28:43,630 --> 00:28:45,069
I always love these
panel conversations

855
00:28:45,069 --> 00:28:46,420
because I feel like
no matter what,

856
00:28:46,420 --> 00:28:48,460
I always walk away
with new language,

857
00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:50,709
a new way to frame
my experience.

858
00:28:50,709 --> 00:28:52,674
And we'll come back
to that in a second.

859
00:28:52,674 --> 00:28:54,309
So I don't want to do
now is transition to

860
00:28:54,309 --> 00:28:55,930
the sort of
question session.

861
00:28:55,930 --> 00:28:57,129
And we're going
to start with

862
00:28:57,129 --> 00:28:58,510
some questions that
we have internally.

863
00:28:58,510 --> 00:29:00,280
But I know in the audience

864
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,349
among students and
researchers and experts,

865
00:29:02,349 --> 00:29:03,400
there's a lot of expertise

866
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,100
gathered right now
listening to you all.

867
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:06,530
I would I invited them

868
00:29:06,530 --> 00:29:08,120
all to sort of post
some questions

869
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,409
so we can kind
of collectively

870
00:29:09,409 --> 00:29:11,015
engage in this
conversation.

871
00:29:11,015 --> 00:29:12,965
So, so please,

872
00:29:12,965 --> 00:29:15,110
those of you joining
us on the webinar,

873
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:16,309
take a few minutes
and think of

874
00:29:16,309 --> 00:29:17,720
some key questions
based on what you just

875
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,399
heard that maybe you'd
love this panel of

876
00:29:19,399 --> 00:29:21,890
experts to respond to.

877
00:29:21,890 --> 00:29:22,850
So that I'm going to ask

878
00:29:22,850 --> 00:29:24,109
one opening
question to all of

879
00:29:24,109 --> 00:29:25,445
you and give you

880
00:29:25,445 --> 00:29:26,420
a few minutes to kind

881
00:29:26,420 --> 00:29:27,545
of adjust this question.

882
00:29:27,545 --> 00:29:28,790
So it's really open-ended.

883
00:29:28,790 --> 00:29:30,799
And I'm just wondering,
as scholars and

884
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:32,539
research experts
in the fields

885
00:29:32,539 --> 00:29:33,829
that you study, you know,

886
00:29:33,829 --> 00:29:35,269
what is fundamentally
surprised

887
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:36,979
you about the way in

888
00:29:36,979 --> 00:29:39,709
which Individuals
or organizations

889
00:29:39,709 --> 00:29:41,809
or responding to
this global pendant.

890
00:29:41,809 --> 00:29:42,979
What's a big surprise to

891
00:29:42,979 --> 00:29:44,599
you during this time?

892
00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:45,980
So maybe we'll go
in the same order

893
00:29:45,980 --> 00:29:48,124
and we'll start
with Charlotte.

894
00:29:48,124 --> 00:29:51,649
Yeah, I think that

895
00:29:51,649 --> 00:29:52,880
might be a lot of
different things,

896
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,245
but I'm choosing actually

897
00:29:54,245 --> 00:29:58,234
an example out of
my teaching at PSU,

898
00:29:58,234 --> 00:30:00,440
I'm currently
Remotely teaching

899
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,609
an undergraduate class in

900
00:30:01,609 --> 00:30:03,319
organizational
psychology where we

901
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:05,569
focus on all kinds of
workplace phenomena.

902
00:30:05,569 --> 00:30:08,900
And the spur of the moment,

903
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:10,219
I decided to actually

904
00:30:10,219 --> 00:30:12,170
start the class off
with giving them

905
00:30:12,170 --> 00:30:14,689
a writing
assignment in which

906
00:30:14,689 --> 00:30:18,380
they were asked to
interview the three people

907
00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:20,450
who are currently working

908
00:30:20,450 --> 00:30:24,050
and to interview
them about how

909
00:30:24,050 --> 00:30:25,339
things have changed and

910
00:30:25,339 --> 00:30:26,539
how they're coping with it

911
00:30:26,539 --> 00:30:28,669
and kind of how

912
00:30:28,669 --> 00:30:30,259
they how they deal
with the situation.

913
00:30:30,259 --> 00:30:31,745
And maybe if
there's anything

914
00:30:31,745 --> 00:30:34,399
any silver lining
in there as well.

915
00:30:34,399 --> 00:30:36,649
And I have just graded

916
00:30:36,649 --> 00:30:39,020
these papers the last

917
00:30:39,020 --> 00:30:41,315
few days and it
was beautiful.

918
00:30:41,315 --> 00:30:42,710
It was beautiful to read

919
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:44,765
these stories and
these interviews.

920
00:30:44,765 --> 00:30:48,214
And I read so many
stories about

921
00:30:48,214 --> 00:30:50,329
community building
and resilience

922
00:30:50,329 --> 00:30:52,924
and hope and optimism in,

923
00:30:52,924 --> 00:30:55,339
in the organizations and

924
00:30:55,339 --> 00:30:57,980
strategies that
employees individually

925
00:30:57,980 --> 00:31:00,770
have for themselves ways

926
00:31:00,770 --> 00:31:03,534
and that they find
support outside of work,

927
00:31:03,534 --> 00:31:06,379
but also ways they
find support at work.

928
00:31:06,379 --> 00:31:08,930
And these people that
were interviewed came

929
00:31:08,930 --> 00:31:10,369
from so many
different kinds

930
00:31:10,369 --> 00:31:12,274
of jobs and industries.

931
00:31:12,274 --> 00:31:13,850
And so I got a
little bit of

932
00:31:13,850 --> 00:31:15,559
an inside peek into

933
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:18,440
all these experiences
and it surprised me.

934
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,110
And yeah, I was
very moved by it.

935
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:22,760
And some of the
students also

936
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,530
specifically chose to end

937
00:31:24,530 --> 00:31:26,419
their paper reflecting on

938
00:31:26,419 --> 00:31:28,669
what they heard and how
they learned from it,

939
00:31:28,669 --> 00:31:30,200
and how they
appreciated what they

940
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,820
learned and how much

941
00:31:31,820 --> 00:31:33,589
communicate deep
building there,

942
00:31:33,589 --> 00:31:35,225
there actually
is going on that

943
00:31:35,225 --> 00:31:38,759
surprised me in a very,
very beautiful way.

944
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,239
Thank you for your
great example prizes,

945
00:31:44,239 --> 00:31:46,009
evenings. Global pandemic.

946
00:31:46,009 --> 00:31:48,350
I think one of the things

947
00:31:48,350 --> 00:31:51,589
that I think has
really become

948
00:31:51,589 --> 00:31:55,219
salient to me is how

949
00:31:55,219 --> 00:31:57,409
much energy or effort goes

950
00:31:57,409 --> 00:31:59,780
into our daily
lives or not.

951
00:31:59,780 --> 00:32:02,045
If we are,

952
00:32:02,045 --> 00:32:04,340
let's say that we go

953
00:32:04,340 --> 00:32:05,749
to the grocery
store, right?

954
00:32:05,749 --> 00:32:07,639
And we're now
trying to think

955
00:32:07,639 --> 00:32:10,265
about maintaining
distance that,

956
00:32:10,265 --> 00:32:14,239
that requires a
level of awareness.

957
00:32:14,239 --> 00:32:16,850
So all of a sudden,
behaviors that used to

958
00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:19,099
be automatic things we

959
00:32:19,099 --> 00:32:20,239
didn't have to think about.

960
00:32:20,239 --> 00:32:21,844
All of a sudden we do now.

961
00:32:21,844 --> 00:32:24,649
And as a result
of all this,

962
00:32:24,649 --> 00:32:28,039
I find that days are
exhausting, you know,

963
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:29,869
so even if it
doesn't feel like

964
00:32:29,869 --> 00:32:32,779
you get a whole lot of
things accomplished.

965
00:32:32,779 --> 00:32:37,115
Its everyday life
is very tiring.

966
00:32:37,115 --> 00:32:39,904
And I think that's
been the surprise.

967
00:32:39,904 --> 00:32:42,350
I mean, I can understand
why that might be.

968
00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:43,939
I can understand
why going to

969
00:32:43,939 --> 00:32:46,670
the grocery store would
be stressful now,

970
00:32:46,670 --> 00:32:50,989
but or just trying to do,

971
00:32:50,989 --> 00:32:54,155
you know, a lot of
meetings through zoom.

972
00:32:54,155 --> 00:32:56,690
I mean, that also
is, is tiring.

973
00:32:56,690 --> 00:33:00,739
So I think that's been
the surprising thing.

974
00:33:00,739 --> 00:33:02,239
It seems like,
oh, it should,

975
00:33:02,239 --> 00:33:04,250
it shouldn't be that
difficult, but,

976
00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:05,419
but actually, at the end of

977
00:33:05,419 --> 00:33:07,830
the day, it's exhausting.

978
00:33:09,250 --> 00:33:13,684
I want them to shake.
Surely. Go ahead.

979
00:33:13,684 --> 00:33:15,109
I appreciate sharing that.

980
00:33:15,109 --> 00:33:17,000
Having such uplifting
messages there.

981
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,065
I feel like I'm the downer,

982
00:33:18,065 --> 00:33:20,900
but I totally agree

983
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:22,520
with what Cynthia
was saying.

984
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,929
And I was taught
my sisters of

985
00:33:23,929 --> 00:33:25,160
therapists and we
were talking about

986
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,619
how you feel like you
have so much time.

987
00:33:27,619 --> 00:33:28,940
You should be accomplishing

988
00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:30,199
all kinds of things and you

989
00:33:30,199 --> 00:33:32,149
don't and you're so

990
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:33,785
tired, you don't know why.

991
00:33:33,785 --> 00:33:35,780
And she sent me
this article about

992
00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:37,790
how it's not only
everything you just said,

993
00:33:37,790 --> 00:33:39,380
but also that every
decision you make

994
00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:41,090
right now is
emotionally fraught.

995
00:33:41,090 --> 00:33:42,440
It's a moral decision.

996
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,020
If you, are you putting
yourself at risk?

997
00:33:45,020 --> 00:33:45,979
Are you putting
other people at

998
00:33:45,979 --> 00:33:47,239
risk with what
you're doing?

999
00:33:47,239 --> 00:33:50,594
And net's really
exhausting too.

1000
00:33:50,594 --> 00:33:53,140
But the other things
that have surprised me

1001
00:33:53,140 --> 00:33:54,880
initially when it all

1002
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,390
started and people
people reacted

1003
00:33:58,390 --> 00:34:01,090
so negatively to not

1004
00:34:01,090 --> 00:34:02,409
be enough to do what
they normally do.

1005
00:34:02,409 --> 00:34:03,684
And it just made me,

1006
00:34:03,684 --> 00:34:05,620
I think we tend
to be critical

1007
00:34:05,620 --> 00:34:07,719
of society and
other people and,

1008
00:34:07,719 --> 00:34:09,699
and people we love
other people,

1009
00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:10,930
we love our society.

1010
00:34:10,930 --> 00:34:11,830
And in, I think it

1011
00:34:11,830 --> 00:34:13,000
really showed
when people were

1012
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,975
so upset that things
were changing.

1013
00:34:16,975 --> 00:34:21,579
And then the other thing
is that the upside,

1014
00:34:21,579 --> 00:34:22,659
I guess to the whole thing

1015
00:34:22,659 --> 00:34:24,489
is being able to talk
with people from

1016
00:34:24,489 --> 00:34:25,810
my past that I

1017
00:34:25,810 --> 00:34:29,109
had not been in contact
with and people,

1018
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:31,074
people from college and

1019
00:34:31,074 --> 00:34:34,720
relatives and or even
my immediate family.

1020
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:36,625
We have Zoom meetings now.

1021
00:34:36,625 --> 00:34:38,260
We didn't do that before

1022
00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:40,789
and that's been
kind of special.

1023
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:44,769
That's great. Thanks girl.

1024
00:34:44,769 --> 00:34:46,164
So we're going to
transition to,

1025
00:34:46,164 --> 00:34:47,289
we had a whole lineup of

1026
00:34:47,289 --> 00:34:48,519
great questions
from the audience.

1027
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,199
So I'm just going to
read some questions and

1028
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:51,340
then we'll kinda go

1029
00:34:51,340 --> 00:34:52,930
around and see who
wants to answer them.

1030
00:34:52,930 --> 00:34:54,400
You don't need each
answer, all of them.

1031
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,600
But if you have something
you'd like to say,

1032
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,925
please chime in
open conversation.

1033
00:34:57,925 --> 00:34:59,559
So the first one really is,

1034
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:00,895
I love this question.

1035
00:35:00,895 --> 00:35:02,229
What part of the social

1036
00:35:02,229 --> 00:35:03,970
media play in supporting or

1037
00:35:03,970 --> 00:35:05,919
damaging people's
emotional well-being

1038
00:35:05,919 --> 00:35:07,569
during this
social isolation.

1039
00:35:07,569 --> 00:35:09,520
So it's like what are
your perspectives on

1040
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,530
that social media
implications in

1041
00:35:11,530 --> 00:35:12,040
this case in the

1042
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,900
negative supported
emotional well-being?

1043
00:35:18,090 --> 00:35:21,534
Well, I can speak
to that a bit.

1044
00:35:21,534 --> 00:35:26,124
I mean, it is a real
mixed bag, right?

1045
00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:32,590
So I think there's a
lot of negative ways

1046
00:35:32,590 --> 00:35:34,420
that, you know,
that we're all

1047
00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:37,014
aware of in terms
of news exposure,

1048
00:35:37,014 --> 00:35:38,469
arguments, things
like that.

1049
00:35:38,469 --> 00:35:42,429
But I think on the
positive side,

1050
00:35:42,429 --> 00:35:44,439
and actually what
some research has

1051
00:35:44,439 --> 00:35:46,479
shown is that again,

1052
00:35:46,479 --> 00:35:49,704
from a social
connection perspective,

1053
00:35:49,704 --> 00:35:52,060
that ability to
stay connected with

1054
00:35:52,060 --> 00:35:54,220
people on keep up with
what they're doing.

1055
00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:56,439
And staying engaged
with people,

1056
00:35:56,439 --> 00:35:57,929
I think is really,

1057
00:35:57,929 --> 00:35:59,780
It's a valuable resource.

1058
00:35:59,780 --> 00:36:03,350
And so like as
Darrell mentioned,

1059
00:36:03,350 --> 00:36:05,749
I've also connected
with people from

1060
00:36:05,749 --> 00:36:07,189
far flung parts of

1061
00:36:07,189 --> 00:36:09,214
my life that without
social media,

1062
00:36:09,214 --> 00:36:10,760
I would not have been able

1063
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,530
to get connected with them.

1064
00:36:12,530 --> 00:36:14,569
So I think that is

1065
00:36:14,569 --> 00:36:18,859
a very rewarding
positive dimension.

1066
00:36:18,859 --> 00:36:20,630
But what we do know from

1067
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:23,089
the literature is
that people who

1068
00:36:23,089 --> 00:36:25,070
go to social
media and don't

1069
00:36:25,070 --> 00:36:27,065
actually engage
or interact,

1070
00:36:27,065 --> 00:36:28,744
they're just
more observing.

1071
00:36:28,744 --> 00:36:30,289
They tend to experience

1072
00:36:30,289 --> 00:36:32,060
more loneliness
as a resolved.

1073
00:36:32,060 --> 00:36:34,670
So we do know that
there's sort of,

1074
00:36:34,670 --> 00:36:35,839
if you're using it as

1075
00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:37,460
a tool for staying
connected,

1076
00:36:37,460 --> 00:36:38,870
it's it's a positive,

1077
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:40,909
but If you're just

1078
00:36:40,909 --> 00:36:43,189
looking at what other
people are doing it it

1079
00:36:43,189 --> 00:36:49,830
can be detrimental
cell and the others.

1080
00:36:50,140 --> 00:36:52,309
Okay. We'll move on.

1081
00:36:52,309 --> 00:36:54,619
That's good. We're
going to do so.

1082
00:36:54,619 --> 00:36:55,819
Open question here again,

1083
00:36:55,819 --> 00:36:58,759
which is how,
how, how can we,

1084
00:36:58,759 --> 00:37:00,814
as parents of grade
school students,

1085
00:37:00,814 --> 00:37:02,149
help our children cope

1086
00:37:02,149 --> 00:37:04,114
with the stress of
distance learning.

1087
00:37:04,114 --> 00:37:05,570
So many of our students

1088
00:37:05,570 --> 00:37:06,739
and community
members, of course,

1089
00:37:06,739 --> 00:37:08,030
are also find themselves

1090
00:37:08,030 --> 00:37:10,100
being remote teachers
at this very moment

1091
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:11,240
as they themselves
are trying to

1092
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:14,579
learn any, any advice?

1093
00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:23,659
I think being
okay with that,

1094
00:37:23,659 --> 00:37:25,309
that kids are
not going to be

1095
00:37:25,309 --> 00:37:26,869
learning as much as
they were before.

1096
00:37:26,869 --> 00:37:28,235
The pandemic is
just going to,

1097
00:37:28,235 --> 00:37:33,770
it's OK. And I

1098
00:37:33,770 --> 00:37:34,699
feel like I have
friends that are

1099
00:37:34,699 --> 00:37:36,484
finding creative ways to,

1100
00:37:36,484 --> 00:37:37,789
I don't know, I think
it's so different

1101
00:37:37,789 --> 00:37:39,260
and how schools
are delivering

1102
00:37:39,260 --> 00:37:41,420
the remote learning
that maybe some are

1103
00:37:41,420 --> 00:37:42,904
more structured and others

1104
00:37:42,904 --> 00:37:43,804
are not doing much.

1105
00:37:43,804 --> 00:37:44,600
Sure, disappear.

1106
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,110
But the district
school resources are,

1107
00:37:48,110 --> 00:37:49,760
but there's
definitely a lot of

1108
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,500
resources on languages by

1109
00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:52,580
just more stress
for people.

1110
00:37:52,580 --> 00:37:56,269
But to do fun
science things.

1111
00:37:56,269 --> 00:37:59,630
Outsider art projects
that are educational.

1112
00:37:59,630 --> 00:38:01,519
And I think mostly
just being okay

1113
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:05,129
with not being a
great way to Larry.

1114
00:38:06,790 --> 00:38:09,320
Yeah. I would just chime in

1115
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,030
Edo as the parent of

1116
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:13,370
a sixth grader
who's now teaching

1117
00:38:13,370 --> 00:38:16,355
sixth grade on the
side if open data.

1118
00:38:16,355 --> 00:38:18,889
Not exactly,
but just trying

1119
00:38:18,889 --> 00:38:21,515
to make sure that
he stays up with,

1120
00:38:21,515 --> 00:38:23,000
you know, some
of his homework.

1121
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,770
I think kind of

1122
00:38:24,770 --> 00:38:27,050
managing expectations
and knowing

1123
00:38:27,050 --> 00:38:29,209
that it's not going to
be the same as it was

1124
00:38:29,209 --> 00:38:31,489
before and maybe everything
doesn't get done.

1125
00:38:31,489 --> 00:38:34,069
You just, you
know, kind of we,

1126
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:35,569
we do some trying to

1127
00:38:35,569 --> 00:38:37,640
figure out what's the
most important things.

1128
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,780
We've worked with
the teachers

1129
00:38:38,780 --> 00:38:40,445
to figure out what,

1130
00:38:40,445 --> 00:38:43,865
you know, how we
prioritize the work and,

1131
00:38:43,865 --> 00:38:47,810
and try to support

1132
00:38:47,810 --> 00:38:51,019
like doing things that
are enjoyable and,

1133
00:38:51,019 --> 00:38:52,729
and just not, you know,

1134
00:38:52,729 --> 00:38:54,079
what we don't want to come

1135
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:55,489
away from is a sense

1136
00:38:55,489 --> 00:38:58,400
of like losing that
enjoyment of learning.

1137
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,500
So trying to keep the
the connection there.

1138
00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:04,670
And I think it's yes.

1139
00:39:04,670 --> 00:39:07,609
Or the feedback.

1140
00:39:07,609 --> 00:39:10,069
Our district actually
requested feedback.

1141
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:11,674
And one of the things I

1142
00:39:11,674 --> 00:39:14,479
mentioned is
that, you know,

1143
00:39:14,479 --> 00:39:16,325
what's really
important now is,

1144
00:39:16,325 --> 00:39:18,829
is less about the
work production

1145
00:39:18,829 --> 00:39:20,149
and more about just keeping

1146
00:39:20,149 --> 00:39:21,320
these kids connected.

1147
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,760
I mean, they were
just ripped out of

1148
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,200
their whole social fabric.

1149
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,630
And I think what I
see in my silence,

1150
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:28,415
just more loneliness
than anything.

1151
00:39:28,415 --> 00:39:29,989
Missing his Brad's missing

1152
00:39:29,989 --> 00:39:32,990
his whole school
environment.

1153
00:39:32,990 --> 00:39:35,555
So to the extent
that they can

1154
00:39:35,555 --> 00:39:38,809
do some kind of online
remote connection,

1155
00:39:38,809 --> 00:39:41,220
I think is really
important.

1156
00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:45,770
Great. Thank you for what?

1157
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:48,369
You do have a
directed question

1158
00:39:48,369 --> 00:39:49,599
and it's actually
directed Dara.

1159
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:50,800
And the question is
there, have you ever

1160
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,420
studied about how
the students,

1161
00:39:52,420 --> 00:39:55,780
how students with the
stream poverty and

1162
00:39:55,780 --> 00:39:57,489
more actually succeed and

1163
00:39:57,489 --> 00:39:59,964
study how we can use
those efforts as a help.

1164
00:39:59,964 --> 00:40:01,960
So it's looking at
the success size

1165
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,399
of those in
extreme poverty.

1166
00:40:03,399 --> 00:40:06,189
Or that might
provide some insight

1167
00:40:06,189 --> 00:40:09,670
that's such an
important part

1168
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:11,049
of sociology of

1169
00:40:11,049 --> 00:40:13,809
education and
education research.

1170
00:40:13,809 --> 00:40:17,964
I honestly get frustrated
with studies that.

1171
00:40:17,964 --> 00:40:19,479
But a lot of times

1172
00:40:19,479 --> 00:40:20,559
what will happen is
there'll be like

1173
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:23,620
a federal report that
says This school

1174
00:40:23,620 --> 00:40:27,559
is making achievement
happening

1175
00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:30,649
amongst very poor kids
and they highlight it.

1176
00:40:30,649 --> 00:40:33,425
But the point is that
that's an exception.

1177
00:40:33,425 --> 00:40:35,015
I mean, it's really

1178
00:40:35,015 --> 00:40:37,219
rare and usually if
that is happening

1179
00:40:37,219 --> 00:40:38,510
is because it's
some kind of

1180
00:40:38,510 --> 00:40:40,009
a charter or a
magnet school

1181
00:40:40,009 --> 00:40:41,569
that has a
selective process

1182
00:40:41,569 --> 00:40:43,220
to which kids
are attending.

1183
00:40:43,220 --> 00:40:45,139
And that's how they're
able to achieve

1184
00:40:45,139 --> 00:40:47,990
this kind of unprecedented
achievement.

1185
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:49,430
And I think it Mr.
acts the focus

1186
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:50,840
away from how

1187
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,530
powerful social
inequality is

1188
00:40:52,530 --> 00:40:54,110
and poverty in kids lives.

1189
00:40:54,110 --> 00:40:56,449
By, I think the

1190
00:40:56,449 --> 00:40:58,549
studies I like the
most that talk

1191
00:40:58,549 --> 00:41:00,739
about how to
raise it produced

1192
00:41:00,739 --> 00:41:02,090
big educational outcomes

1193
00:41:02,090 --> 00:41:03,229
in the midst of poverty.

1194
00:41:03,229 --> 00:41:05,000
Are they really focus

1195
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,235
on like Harlem
Children's Zone?

1196
00:41:07,235 --> 00:41:10,490
It, they did programming

1197
00:41:10,490 --> 00:41:13,039
that started when
the kids for babies,

1198
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:14,855
the parents were involved

1199
00:41:14,855 --> 00:41:17,134
and learning like
parenting tactics.

1200
00:41:17,134 --> 00:41:18,560
And so it was at

1201
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,570
this program
pardons chosen zone

1202
00:41:20,570 --> 00:41:22,219
as a part of their
lives from when they're

1203
00:41:22,219 --> 00:41:24,455
very young until
they're older.

1204
00:41:24,455 --> 00:41:27,724
And that's a really
powerful way to make

1205
00:41:27,724 --> 00:41:29,554
change without actually

1206
00:41:29,554 --> 00:41:32,849
altering someone's
socioeconomic status.

1207
00:41:33,220 --> 00:41:35,690
Thank you so much for them.

1208
00:41:35,690 --> 00:41:37,520
Just slightly
different type

1209
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,779
of question, which
I'm intrigued by,

1210
00:41:38,779 --> 00:41:40,550
which is how might given

1211
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:41,690
especially some
of the expertise

1212
00:41:41,690 --> 00:41:42,919
we have around workplace,

1213
00:41:42,919 --> 00:41:44,704
workplace dynamics
is how will,

1214
00:41:44,704 --> 00:41:46,670
how do you think
future employers?

1215
00:41:46,670 --> 00:41:55,599
Maybe you, the class of
2020, class of 2020?

1216
00:41:55,599 --> 00:42:00,220
Mm, that's a really
broad question,

1217
00:42:00,220 --> 00:42:01,600
but I'm just trying
to think about

1218
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,339
what pops into
my head, right?

1219
00:42:03,339 --> 00:42:04,689
I think it's about
the question

1220
00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:06,820
of in this current
situation,

1221
00:42:06,820 --> 00:42:09,175
how do people look for jobs

1222
00:42:09,175 --> 00:42:12,130
and how do organizations
look for people?

1223
00:42:12,130 --> 00:42:14,155
And of course,
unfortunately,

1224
00:42:14,155 --> 00:42:16,839
some organizations had
to lay people off.

1225
00:42:16,839 --> 00:42:19,899
Some organizations
will be reduced in

1226
00:42:19,899 --> 00:42:21,700
size during this time

1227
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:23,229
and as a result of this.

1228
00:42:23,229 --> 00:42:25,390
And then there's
other organization

1229
00:42:25,390 --> 00:42:28,600
that are actually growing

1230
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,880
and creating new
opportunities.

1231
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,975
There's some
tech companies a

1232
00:42:32,975 --> 00:42:34,790
growing because
they're able

1233
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:35,989
to create, for example,

1234
00:42:35,989 --> 00:42:37,729
certain apps that help

1235
00:42:37,729 --> 00:42:42,110
people to work remotely

1236
00:42:42,110 --> 00:42:45,140
or be in touch with each
other in a way solve

1237
00:42:45,140 --> 00:42:47,180
problems without being in

1238
00:42:47,180 --> 00:42:48,979
the same physical space.

1239
00:42:48,979 --> 00:42:51,169
And so those new tools

1240
00:42:51,169 --> 00:42:53,525
are needed more
now than ever.

1241
00:42:53,525 --> 00:42:55,745
And so those
companies are hiring.

1242
00:42:55,745 --> 00:42:57,005
So I think there's a shift

1243
00:42:57,005 --> 00:42:58,459
almost a little
bit in terms of

1244
00:42:58,459 --> 00:43:00,620
which industries or which

1245
00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:02,840
niches of industries
even can hire.

1246
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,149
And we'll hire
Which ones won't?

1247
00:43:05,149 --> 00:43:07,459
And I again, I'm
trying to stay on

1248
00:43:07,459 --> 00:43:10,369
my optimistic path
for today and say,

1249
00:43:10,369 --> 00:43:13,054
I hope that there will be

1250
00:43:13,054 --> 00:43:16,490
a good amount of job
opportunities for those.

1251
00:43:16,490 --> 00:43:19,339
Graduating in 2020.

1252
00:43:19,339 --> 00:43:23,150
Has just one idea that
popped into my head.

1253
00:43:23,150 --> 00:43:25,069
And the other
thoughts on how

1254
00:43:25,069 --> 00:43:27,875
employers might view
the class of 2020.

1255
00:43:27,875 --> 00:43:33,140
It's a very broad
and move on.

1256
00:43:33,140 --> 00:43:36,499
So let's go back to
some, here's a question.

1257
00:43:36,499 --> 00:43:38,209
So, so some of our,

1258
00:43:38,209 --> 00:43:40,654
especially PSU are
first-generation students,

1259
00:43:40,654 --> 00:43:41,959
are first-generation
college

1260
00:43:41,959 --> 00:43:43,340
students report that it's

1261
00:43:43,340 --> 00:43:44,629
been very difficult to make

1262
00:43:44,629 --> 00:43:46,440
the transition to
the home space,

1263
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,380
particularly because

1264
00:43:47,380 --> 00:43:48,399
they know their parents or

1265
00:43:48,399 --> 00:43:49,735
guardians or housemates

1266
00:43:49,735 --> 00:43:50,889
perceive their studying,

1267
00:43:50,889 --> 00:43:52,944
reading as
leisure activity.

1268
00:43:52,944 --> 00:43:54,820
So the question is, do

1269
00:43:54,820 --> 00:43:56,740
any suggestions that
we can offer them to

1270
00:43:56,740 --> 00:43:58,270
sort of help them navigate

1271
00:43:58,270 --> 00:44:02,544
this reality of a working
remotely at home.

1272
00:44:02,544 --> 00:44:12,069
So any suggestion?
I was hoping,

1273
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:14,139
Cynthia I would
go for this one

1274
00:44:14,139 --> 00:44:16,510
because I think it's
almost a question

1275
00:44:16,510 --> 00:44:17,995
of communication,

1276
00:44:17,995 --> 00:44:20,079
of clarifying expectations

1277
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:21,489
and relationship building.

1278
00:44:21,489 --> 00:44:23,260
Really sharing
what is going

1279
00:44:23,260 --> 00:44:25,240
on in my life and
what do I need?

1280
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:27,939
And what kind of
goals do I half and

1281
00:44:27,939 --> 00:44:30,800
saying I signed up
for this class,

1282
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,039
I paid money, and now I
am expected to learn.

1283
00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:37,190
I'm expected to do
certain task and I'm

1284
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:38,990
expected to deliver s

1285
00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:41,045
In a way an employee would.

1286
00:44:41,045 --> 00:44:43,519
And if I don't deliver,

1287
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:45,919
I will not pass this
class or I will not

1288
00:44:45,919 --> 00:44:47,180
pass it at the performance

1289
00:44:47,180 --> 00:44:48,680
level that I helped to do.

1290
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,929
So I, so I assume that

1291
00:44:50,929 --> 00:44:54,409
communication is a
big piece in that.

1292
00:44:54,409 --> 00:44:55,550
And, and maybe there are

1293
00:44:55,550 --> 00:44:57,259
some strategies
that students

1294
00:44:57,259 --> 00:45:00,904
can use to compare
it maybe to a job,

1295
00:45:00,904 --> 00:45:03,260
to make it clear
to parents who did

1296
00:45:03,260 --> 00:45:05,749
not go to college
what this means.

1297
00:45:05,749 --> 00:45:08,914
And also and also
passing the class

1298
00:45:08,914 --> 00:45:10,670
means losing the money that

1299
00:45:10,670 --> 00:45:12,680
they spend for this class.

1300
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,019
And that I think
the costs I think

1301
00:45:15,019 --> 00:45:18,035
can be made clear easily.

1302
00:45:18,035 --> 00:45:19,549
And our hopes and
fears going to help

1303
00:45:19,549 --> 00:45:21,560
me out with this
one a little bit.

1304
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,450
You did a great job.

1305
00:45:23,450 --> 00:45:25,680
You don't need much.

1306
00:45:26,290 --> 00:45:30,455
But yeah, I think
I think reminding,

1307
00:45:30,455 --> 00:45:32,989
you know, whoever it is,

1308
00:45:32,989 --> 00:45:34,130
like what the goals are,

1309
00:45:34,130 --> 00:45:35,299
what are you
trying to achieve?

1310
00:45:35,299 --> 00:45:37,580
What has been
invested are ready,

1311
00:45:37,580 --> 00:45:39,920
how important it is to

1312
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,130
maintain the continuity
of the studies.

1313
00:45:43,130 --> 00:45:46,730
And so just to kind of

1314
00:45:46,730 --> 00:45:48,050
help them understand

1315
00:45:48,050 --> 00:45:50,809
from the students
perspective,

1316
00:45:50,809 --> 00:45:53,014
flake what this
means to them and,

1317
00:45:53,014 --> 00:45:55,069
and what they've
already committed to.

1318
00:45:55,069 --> 00:45:58,099
And so, you know,
and then I think,

1319
00:45:58,099 --> 00:46:01,190
you know, negotiating
in terms of, you know,

1320
00:46:01,190 --> 00:46:04,669
like many of us are doing
in terms of we have

1321
00:46:04,669 --> 00:46:08,060
multiple working
full-time adults

1322
00:46:08,060 --> 00:46:11,420
in the House as well as
a home school or so,

1323
00:46:11,420 --> 00:46:12,829
were trying to
figure out who

1324
00:46:12,829 --> 00:46:13,939
does what, where,

1325
00:46:13,939 --> 00:46:17,420
and carving out
different spaces.

1326
00:46:17,420 --> 00:46:18,710
And so I think that

1327
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:20,090
would be a part of it too,

1328
00:46:20,090 --> 00:46:21,590
is just figuring out how,

1329
00:46:21,590 --> 00:46:24,019
how are you going to wear?

1330
00:46:24,019 --> 00:46:25,549
Will you work, and how will

1331
00:46:25,549 --> 00:46:28,469
you accomplish this sum?

1332
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,565
I like this question a lot.

1333
00:46:31,565 --> 00:46:34,069
I've had lots of

1334
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:34,850
close friends that were

1335
00:46:34,850 --> 00:46:36,140
first-generation
college students.

1336
00:46:36,140 --> 00:46:38,554
And it does, it does change

1337
00:46:38,554 --> 00:46:40,429
their relationship
with their family

1338
00:46:40,429 --> 00:46:42,109
and create some tension.

1339
00:46:42,109 --> 00:46:43,430
And there's even
studies that show

1340
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:46,129
that you can always create

1341
00:46:46,129 --> 00:46:47,389
distance with your family

1342
00:46:47,389 --> 00:46:48,170
if you become a lot more

1343
00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:50,659
educated than your
parents were.

1344
00:46:50,659 --> 00:46:51,949
So I agree with
Charlotte and

1345
00:46:51,949 --> 00:46:53,750
Cynthia that
communication is key,

1346
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:56,420
and especially
communicating in

1347
00:46:56,420 --> 00:46:58,219
a way that's not demeaning
to your parents?

1348
00:46:58,219 --> 00:46:59,810
I have less education and

1349
00:46:59,810 --> 00:47:02,524
respecting that
they're different,

1350
00:47:02,524 --> 00:47:04,160
part of a different context

1351
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,329
in a different time.

1352
00:47:05,329 --> 00:47:07,160
And you could, I'm sure I

1353
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,899
can send you graphs on how

1354
00:47:08,899 --> 00:47:10,519
educational attainment
will improve

1355
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:14,240
your occupational options

1356
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:15,290
that you could also show.

1357
00:47:15,290 --> 00:47:19,970
Share with your family,
share those thoughts.

1358
00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:22,369
Get mark Mar in the toolkit

1359
00:47:22,369 --> 00:47:23,570
to help our students

1360
00:47:23,570 --> 00:47:26,180
navigate this. That's
great. Thank you.

1361
00:47:26,180 --> 00:47:28,849
Maybe a bit of a
forward-looking question.

1362
00:47:28,849 --> 00:47:30,694
I mean, again, how do you,

1363
00:47:30,694 --> 00:47:32,659
how do you all see the
transition back to

1364
00:47:32,659 --> 00:47:35,659
work or back to the
classroom after mismo,

1365
00:47:35,659 --> 00:47:37,519
we know eventually
we're going to move

1366
00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:38,840
away from the
shelter in place.

1367
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,859
And what are you
thinking about?

1368
00:47:39,859 --> 00:47:42,560
What that degree, that
that transition maybe

1369
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,619
as dramatic or not
as going remote.

1370
00:47:48,010 --> 00:47:50,600
But from what I hear,

1371
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,119
it seems to be going
and stages, right?

1372
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:54,410
So if I think
about that from

1373
00:47:54,410 --> 00:47:56,329
the angle of work
organizations,

1374
00:47:56,329 --> 00:47:58,160
then probably certain
work organization,

1375
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,545
certain industries
will go first.

1376
00:48:00,545 --> 00:48:03,199
Maybe even they will
go in steps and have

1377
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:04,895
the employees go
back and then

1378
00:48:04,895 --> 00:48:07,714
other industries go later.

1379
00:48:07,714 --> 00:48:08,869
And so I think there's

1380
00:48:08,869 --> 00:48:12,845
a cautious approach there.

1381
00:48:12,845 --> 00:48:15,980
What I hear a lot from

1382
00:48:15,980 --> 00:48:17,990
people like office workers

1383
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:19,385
who are working remotely,

1384
00:48:19,385 --> 00:48:21,139
they're really also

1385
00:48:21,139 --> 00:48:23,330
appreciating the upside of

1386
00:48:23,330 --> 00:48:25,549
that remote work
and the lack of

1387
00:48:25,549 --> 00:48:28,085
commuting that
comes up a lot.

1388
00:48:28,085 --> 00:48:29,899
I'm I'm saving two hours a

1389
00:48:29,899 --> 00:48:32,675
day by not having
to commute to work.

1390
00:48:32,675 --> 00:48:34,249
And so, but comes

1391
00:48:34,249 --> 00:48:35,330
up a lot is this
idea of like,

1392
00:48:35,330 --> 00:48:37,280
why can't we work from

1393
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,040
home more than we are now?

1394
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,540
And so I hope that

1395
00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:43,804
some organizations
say, hey,

1396
00:48:43,804 --> 00:48:45,739
we found actually
creative ways

1397
00:48:45,739 --> 00:48:47,869
to get our work

1398
00:48:47,869 --> 00:48:49,939
done. Also on
the team level,

1399
00:48:49,939 --> 00:48:51,290
if we can create

1400
00:48:51,290 --> 00:48:54,439
flexibility for
our employees by

1401
00:48:54,439 --> 00:48:56,509
letting them work
from home more as

1402
00:48:56,509 --> 00:48:59,030
they need with the
tools that they need.

1403
00:48:59,030 --> 00:49:00,740
And that could
be, for example,

1404
00:49:00,740 --> 00:49:02,690
one forward step in terms

1405
00:49:02,690 --> 00:49:05,089
of kind of creating a new,

1406
00:49:05,089 --> 00:49:07,669
a new rules and plans
on how to work.

1407
00:49:07,669 --> 00:49:08,810
So I feel like
that that could be

1408
00:49:08,810 --> 00:49:10,279
something I think
something else I

1409
00:49:10,279 --> 00:49:11,299
want to bring up is also

1410
00:49:11,299 --> 00:49:13,265
the point of burnout.

1411
00:49:13,265 --> 00:49:17,509
So some portions of

1412
00:49:17,509 --> 00:49:20,749
workers are under
higher demands

1413
00:49:20,749 --> 00:49:22,805
at work and at
home right now.

1414
00:49:22,805 --> 00:49:24,379
And so that
means there are,

1415
00:49:24,379 --> 00:49:26,719
of course at
risk of burnout.

1416
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,585
So while they
might be able to

1417
00:49:29,585 --> 00:49:33,275
get us through this
phase of high demand,

1418
00:49:33,275 --> 00:49:34,879
we need to be careful of

1419
00:49:34,879 --> 00:49:36,440
what is going
on afterwards.

1420
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,254
Because often from a
health perspective,

1421
00:49:38,254 --> 00:49:39,529
when we're in a fight or

1422
00:49:39,529 --> 00:49:41,359
flight response and we are

1423
00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:45,035
activated and we're
dealing with the threat,

1424
00:49:45,035 --> 00:49:46,354
we can do that,

1425
00:49:46,354 --> 00:49:48,395
we are very
capable of that.

1426
00:49:48,395 --> 00:49:51,184
But then there is a
recovery time from that.

1427
00:49:51,184 --> 00:49:52,759
And so that means
we need to be

1428
00:49:52,759 --> 00:49:55,159
careful and be
aware of something

1429
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:57,770
that might then occur
as a result of that on

1430
00:49:57,770 --> 00:50:02,299
a physical or mental
level for employees.

1431
00:50:02,299 --> 00:50:04,010
When we transition fully

1432
00:50:04,010 --> 00:50:05,299
back into what we call

1433
00:50:05,299 --> 00:50:06,829
normal or the new normal

1434
00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:08,899
or whichever label
you want to give it.

1435
00:50:08,899 --> 00:50:10,459
So I think that's
something that

1436
00:50:10,459 --> 00:50:13,320
organizations need to
be aware of as well.

1437
00:50:14,590 --> 00:50:18,080
Yeah, I'll just say
I've heard a lot of

1438
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,500
anecdotal reports,
Charlotte, the track,

1439
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:22,789
what you're saying
that people are

1440
00:50:22,789 --> 00:50:27,229
realizing how
maybe they can do

1441
00:50:27,229 --> 00:50:28,819
things differently
than they

1442
00:50:28,819 --> 00:50:30,619
used to in terms of

1443
00:50:30,619 --> 00:50:32,405
work productivity or

1444
00:50:32,405 --> 00:50:35,090
different approaches
to doing things.

1445
00:50:35,090 --> 00:50:37,234
And I, I do think, I mean,

1446
00:50:37,234 --> 00:50:39,439
it will it by all accounts,

1447
00:50:39,439 --> 00:50:40,789
it does seem to
be that it'll

1448
00:50:40,789 --> 00:50:42,679
be a stepped process,

1449
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:44,809
that it won't be all
or nothing the way

1450
00:50:44,809 --> 00:50:47,809
the beginning part
more or less was.

1451
00:50:47,809 --> 00:50:49,519
And I think it's

1452
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:51,755
an opportunity
really for us to

1453
00:50:51,755 --> 00:50:54,050
reevaluate how we
do things and think

1454
00:50:54,050 --> 00:50:56,600
about what are the
important elements.

1455
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,400
I mean, I, I, you know,

1456
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,769
as an interpersonal
relationships person,

1457
00:51:00,769 --> 00:51:03,590
I think that the
social connection,

1458
00:51:03,590 --> 00:51:05,300
the in-person stuff's going

1459
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:07,489
to be important always.

1460
00:51:07,489 --> 00:51:11,105
I think, you know,
people are missing it,

1461
00:51:11,105 --> 00:51:14,000
but, but I think
that you may

1462
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,199
see more balance

1463
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:16,549
between different
approaches.

1464
00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:18,739
Maybe hybrid courses would

1465
00:51:18,739 --> 00:51:21,080
become more popular
where we do

1466
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,060
certain things in
the classroom in

1467
00:51:23,060 --> 00:51:24,919
person that

1468
00:51:24,919 --> 00:51:26,810
are specifically
tailored for that.

1469
00:51:26,810 --> 00:51:27,829
But other parts of

1470
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:29,209
things that don't
need to happen

1471
00:51:29,209 --> 00:51:31,804
in the classroom
can can be online.

1472
00:51:31,804 --> 00:51:33,184
I mean, I don't know.

1473
00:51:33,184 --> 00:51:34,550
No, just speculating.

1474
00:51:34,550 --> 00:51:36,860
But I imagine that
many of us will

1475
00:51:36,860 --> 00:51:41,010
be reevaluating how
we approach things.

1476
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,639
I really thank
you because it

1477
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:45,469
really suggests
that maybe we're

1478
00:51:45,469 --> 00:51:47,419
learning and we'll be
changing some over

1479
00:51:47,419 --> 00:51:49,309
actions from the social
distancing time.

1480
00:51:49,309 --> 00:51:50,810
I'm wondering
dare, if you think

1481
00:51:50,810 --> 00:51:51,649
the same might be

1482
00:51:51,649 --> 00:51:52,970
happening in
future classroom.

1483
00:51:52,970 --> 00:51:54,334
Class sizes or

1484
00:51:54,334 --> 00:51:55,880
other things you
have any thoughts

1485
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,149
and practice in
the classroom

1486
00:51:59,149 --> 00:51:59,810
may also change

1487
00:51:59,810 --> 00:52:02,580
their practices
in the workplace.

1488
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,849
That's my biggest fear is

1489
00:52:04,849 --> 00:52:07,289
that we'll never
go back to normal.

1490
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,380
Yeah. I think that
what Cynthia was just

1491
00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:13,639
saying that
there is already

1492
00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:15,455
talk of schools
being I don't,

1493
00:52:15,455 --> 00:52:16,249
I don't really understand

1494
00:52:16,249 --> 00:52:16,849
the reasoning behind it,

1495
00:52:16,849 --> 00:52:19,055
but it schools
being like part,

1496
00:52:19,055 --> 00:52:22,580
part time or to
kind of create

1497
00:52:22,580 --> 00:52:24,785
social distance or but

1498
00:52:24,785 --> 00:52:27,349
I think to me I'm just,

1499
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:29,015
I wouldn't if
we're going to be

1500
00:52:29,015 --> 00:52:30,649
Fillmore stigma in

1501
00:52:30,649 --> 00:52:32,629
public spaces based on

1502
00:52:32,629 --> 00:52:34,760
Howard paving and
interacting with others.

1503
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:39,230
And and I'm curious how
this is experienced

1504
00:52:39,230 --> 00:52:41,329
differently in different
countries have

1505
00:52:41,329 --> 00:52:44,629
different norms around
social interaction.

1506
00:52:44,629 --> 00:52:46,595
And if we're
going to become,

1507
00:52:46,595 --> 00:52:48,199
you know, like, I

1508
00:52:48,199 --> 00:52:49,039
don't know I don't
know where we

1509
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:49,939
fall on that spectrum,

1510
00:52:49,939 --> 00:52:54,800
but yeah, I think it
just really reinforces,

1511
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,859
but how social
we actually are.

1512
00:52:57,859 --> 00:53:00,049
And login, lovely
appreciation,

1513
00:53:00,049 --> 00:53:01,640
thinking about
stigma because it

1514
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,575
also opens to a question
about inequity.

1515
00:53:03,575 --> 00:53:06,064
And so there was a
question about how can we,

1516
00:53:06,064 --> 00:53:08,494
how can we change the
language of inequities

1517
00:53:08,494 --> 00:53:09,530
that are further

1518
00:53:09,530 --> 00:53:11,630
exacerbated by
this pandemic?

1519
00:53:11,630 --> 00:53:14,180
Or how could we begin
to educate others about

1520
00:53:14,180 --> 00:53:17,699
these disparities.
Any thoughts on that?

1521
00:53:24,490 --> 00:53:27,199
I feel like they're
hard conversations

1522
00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:28,459
that I've had
when I'm really

1523
00:53:28,459 --> 00:53:29,839
frustrated with
the response

1524
00:53:29,839 --> 00:53:30,830
to the pandemic and how

1525
00:53:30,830 --> 00:53:35,419
it's hurting some people
more than others.

1526
00:53:35,419 --> 00:53:38,660
And that most
helpful responses

1527
00:53:38,660 --> 00:53:39,980
I've gotten when I'm being

1528
00:53:39,980 --> 00:53:41,749
unreasonable is
that these are

1529
00:53:41,749 --> 00:53:43,699
structural inequities

1530
00:53:43,699 --> 00:53:44,989
that were in place before,

1531
00:53:44,989 --> 00:53:47,705
and they're to
Spain exacerbated.

1532
00:53:47,705 --> 00:53:52,009
And so things like

1533
00:53:52,009 --> 00:53:55,250
health care and
living wage,

1534
00:53:55,250 --> 00:53:57,424
or are ways that

1535
00:53:57,424 --> 00:54:00,349
we could respond
to this in ways

1536
00:54:00,349 --> 00:54:06,889
that don't hurt
people well.

1537
00:54:06,889 --> 00:54:07,639
So with that, I want to

1538
00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:08,600
be little mindful time.

1539
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:09,800
We have a long
list of questions.

1540
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:10,940
We won't get them
all today, but

1541
00:54:10,940 --> 00:54:12,379
we are archiving them

1542
00:54:12,379 --> 00:54:13,609
and we'll get them
back to you and

1543
00:54:13,609 --> 00:54:15,229
work with the panel
to get some answers.

1544
00:54:15,229 --> 00:54:16,120
I got just in

1545
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,209
a few minutes we
have left remaining.

1546
00:54:17,209 --> 00:54:18,349
I just wonder if you have

1547
00:54:18,349 --> 00:54:19,640
just even one takeaway
that you would

1548
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,869
share as people are

1549
00:54:20,869 --> 00:54:22,100
kind of thinking
about your work,

1550
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:23,870
either research or just

1551
00:54:23,870 --> 00:54:26,104
in the sheltering
place moment.

1552
00:54:26,104 --> 00:54:27,874
I would appreciate that.

1553
00:54:27,874 --> 00:54:30,210
And handy you can start.

1554
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,819
I'm happy to go.
I think one of

1555
00:54:40,819 --> 00:54:43,520
the things that I
am really trying

1556
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:44,869
to be mindful of for

1557
00:54:44,869 --> 00:54:46,789
myself and for
others is just

1558
00:54:46,789 --> 00:54:50,165
to keep my expectations
and check and that,

1559
00:54:50,165 --> 00:54:52,190
you know, it is
not normal times.

1560
00:54:52,190 --> 00:54:55,720
I think we often
for Gat if know,

1561
00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:57,350
if some people can't
forget, you know,

1562
00:54:57,350 --> 00:54:59,630
one of the topics
of conversation is

1563
00:54:59,630 --> 00:55:00,680
that we're experiencing

1564
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,435
this differently, right?

1565
00:55:02,435 --> 00:55:05,510
But even if we're
not suffering

1566
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:07,310
from extreme
financial stress

1567
00:55:07,310 --> 00:55:08,794
or things like that,

1568
00:55:08,794 --> 00:55:11,210
you know, it is a
time of crisis.

1569
00:55:11,210 --> 00:55:12,529
It is not a normal time.

1570
00:55:12,529 --> 00:55:14,240
It is not learning
in a normal time,

1571
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:15,830
it's not working
in a normal time.

1572
00:55:15,830 --> 00:55:19,880
And so being
very forgiving,

1573
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,905
understanding,

1574
00:55:21,905 --> 00:55:24,289
having reasonable
expectations,

1575
00:55:24,289 --> 00:55:26,640
I think is really
important.

1576
00:55:30,490 --> 00:55:32,780
I think it just
demonstrates

1577
00:55:32,780 --> 00:55:34,939
how interconnected
we are as people.

1578
00:55:34,939 --> 00:55:36,109
Even though we forget that

1579
00:55:36,109 --> 00:55:37,369
a lot of the times and

1580
00:55:37,369 --> 00:55:41,419
that policy should be

1581
00:55:41,419 --> 00:55:42,515
focused on what's best

1582
00:55:42,515 --> 00:55:44,374
for we need to have
empathy for how

1583
00:55:44,374 --> 00:55:47,419
other people are
experiencing policy.

1584
00:55:47,419 --> 00:55:49,399
And so policy should
be really focus on

1585
00:55:49,399 --> 00:55:52,559
what's best for the
large share people.

1586
00:55:55,630 --> 00:55:57,965
Yes, I resonate with,

1587
00:55:57,965 --> 00:55:59,210
with what has been sad.

1588
00:55:59,210 --> 00:56:02,719
And now I think my
takeaway message is that

1589
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,720
empathy with others is

1590
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:07,249
more important than ever.

1591
00:56:07,249 --> 00:56:08,720
We don't know
what others are

1592
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:10,325
going through
at the moment.

1593
00:56:10,325 --> 00:56:11,929
Just because we're feeling

1594
00:56:11,929 --> 00:56:13,370
something or going
through something

1595
00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:15,500
doesn't mean I'm others

1596
00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:17,735
have the exact
same experience.

1597
00:56:17,735 --> 00:56:19,459
Another takeaway
message for

1598
00:56:19,459 --> 00:56:20,990
me is that if we can

1599
00:56:20,990 --> 00:56:22,430
find even little moments of

1600
00:56:22,430 --> 00:56:24,380
positivity and
every day we,

1601
00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:27,140
we help ourselves,
we help those around

1602
00:56:27,140 --> 00:56:28,339
us and we help help

1603
00:56:28,339 --> 00:56:30,439
our own happiness
and our own health.

1604
00:56:30,439 --> 00:56:32,749
So we're doing that
for us and we're

1605
00:56:32,749 --> 00:56:34,880
doing it for the
others. I like that.

1606
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,370
And I also want
to just mention

1607
00:56:37,370 --> 00:56:40,399
if there are any
community members

1608
00:56:40,399 --> 00:56:42,140
and work organizations that

1609
00:56:42,140 --> 00:56:43,250
would like to reach out

1610
00:56:43,250 --> 00:56:45,529
and potentially
interested in

1611
00:56:45,529 --> 00:56:46,849
any form of collaboration,

1612
00:56:46,849 --> 00:56:47,899
I'm happy to have

1613
00:56:47,899 --> 00:56:49,610
a follow-up
conversation if that

1614
00:56:49,610 --> 00:56:52,530
is of interest or
helped to anybody.

1615
00:56:53,110 --> 00:56:55,519
Well, great. Thank you all.

1616
00:56:55,519 --> 00:56:56,659
With that, I want

1617
00:56:56,659 --> 00:56:58,280
to reach out and
thank you from

1618
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,960
the entire sort of
PSU community for

1619
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:01,685
taking the time to
join us in the second,

1620
00:57:01,685 --> 00:57:03,619
at this moment
Coven conversation.

1621
00:57:03,619 --> 00:57:05,689
So thank you
each Charlotte,

1622
00:57:05,689 --> 00:57:07,819
Cynthia, and Darrow
for joining us.

1623
00:57:07,819 --> 00:57:09,379
Next week we pivot to

1624
00:57:09,379 --> 00:57:10,850
a totally different
topic which is going

1625
00:57:10,850 --> 00:57:12,769
to be focused on
coded and climate,

1626
00:57:12,769 --> 00:57:14,120
where we have Dr. Paul,

1627
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,409
like a smooth journey,

1628
00:57:15,409 --> 00:57:18,919
kiss you climate
scientists, we have rows.

1629
00:57:18,919 --> 00:57:20,359
Dr. Rose graves of PSU,

1630
00:57:20,359 --> 00:57:22,369
landscape ecologists
and doctors to

1631
00:57:22,369 --> 00:57:23,659
Han De Sun yucky

1632
00:57:23,659 --> 00:57:25,190
coming from the
economy department.

1633
00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:26,360
He's a resource economists.

1634
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,859
So we've assembled
a different panel

1635
00:57:27,859 --> 00:57:29,119
who's going to help
us think through

1636
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:30,620
and have a
conversation around

1637
00:57:30,620 --> 00:57:32,915
the intersection between
Coby and clanging.

1638
00:57:32,915 --> 00:57:34,369
So with that, I just
want to thank you

1639
00:57:34,369 --> 00:57:36,049
all for taking the
time to join us today.

1640
00:57:36,049 --> 00:57:37,400
I hope you enjoyed
this last hour.

1641
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,975
I certainly have, and

1642
00:57:38,975 --> 00:57:40,789
we will hope to
see you next week.

1643
00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:42,949
Alright. Thank you
all. Thanks again.

1644
00:57:42,949 --> 00:57:47,369
Thank you all.